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John Schrauth's avatar

Land resupply would be difficult and a feast for irregulars and bushwhackers. Iran is mostly ringed with mountains and has deep sandy desert areas which would literally swallow armor. As for the straits, we saw British troops sink an Argentinian ship from the shore in the Falklands.. They raked the decks with 7.62 MG's, fired MANPADS etc. I don't know how wide this waterway is but at choke points, we all know a 12.7 within two miles could rain down effective fire from shore God forbid twin or quad 23mm's. Surely they have mining capability. FUBAR. Cluster... Take your pick. If the neocon asshats are itching for a firefight I'm sure Bibi can provide THEM with kit and transport to the war zone. Waiting patiently for pictures of Bill Kristol and Lindsay Graham humping their Galils over the mountains.

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J Jordan's avatar

The strait is about 90 nautical miles (167 km) long, with a width varying from about 52 nmi (96 km) to 21 nmi (39 km).

Strait of Hormuz geography: https://www.strausscenter.org/strait-of-hormuz-geography/

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John Schrauth's avatar

Thanks!

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Glitterpuppy's avatar

I count the moments for those two assholes…..

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Jack Lawson's avatar

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Israeli’s and others invading Iran with ‘boots on the ground?’ What a laugh.

I recall a conversation I had about 20 years ago with an Iranian student going to university here. Bright and engaging young guy.

He hated the Ayatollahs and the Shite system of governing Iran and was involved with one of the resistance groups trying to change it.

I told him that someday America would invade Iran. He stopped cold, stared at me and said… “Then I will be on the front lines fighting to the death for my country Iran!”

“Against Americans!” I asked him…

“Against anyone who invades my country! The change is our business to sort out, no one else’s!”

I don’t think the world has any idea of the resistance an invasion of Iran from Iranians will bring.

Termini…

Jack Lawson

Member, Sully H. deFontaine Special Forces Association Chapter 51, Las Vegas, Nevada

Author of the “Civil Defense Manual,” “The Slaver’s Wheel,” “A Failure of Civility,” “And We Hide From The Devil” and “In Defense.” Go to www.JackLawsonBooks.com and

JackLawsonBooks.Substack.com

“Coulda, woulda, shoulda… you’ll have to learn to make those action decisions in your next life… because you didn’t do it in this one.”

From Jack Lawson… an American in 1RLI Support Commando and attached to Rhodesian “C Squadron” SAS Africa 1976-79

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Zorost's avatar

As bad as a government may be, it can't be worse than the form of government the US imposes. All the old corruption with plenty of new, alongside gay pride parades and women drivers.

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Grape Soda's avatar

Yes it can. I invite you to go and find out for yourself.

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Goldhoarder's avatar

How can anybody look at Iraq, Libya, Syria, Lebanon, Gaza, and Afghanistan and say to themselves “I want some of that”

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Bryce E. 'Esquire' Rasmussen's avatar

That's why airstrikes. Those nice Iranians can fight to the death against that.

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GenEarly's avatar

China will go to war if their oil is cut off. The US then will have to Supply Israel, Fight in Iran, and again in SE Asia. That Is Impossible to do with our manpower and diminihed manufacturing/ logistics.

btw, We have illegals residing within our borders ..... ChiCom PLA, Islamic Tourists, and Cartel members .... All Allied and attacking US Domestically...... =CW.

Game Over, USSA Empire Over. Grahmnesty and NeoCons flying out of the country to ???

We/Me/You living in Lawless Chaos, Cities abandoned to gangs. The Reckoning come home to roost.

Hubris and Hopium are deadly, especially when combined, comrades.

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William Voelz's avatar

Gen. Good post. Deep cover cells of terrorists who have been here a long time surveiling and joined by newbies trained at camps in Afghanistan with our dollars and abandoned equipment. $85 million cash per week delivered via diplomatic couriers. The newly trained arrive here deep in the US interior on airlines /tour companies that service Hajj travelers. Genius. Estimated strength 3-5k. Doesn’t require a uniformed army. This is asymmetrical warfare. Hamza BinLadin, one of Osama’s sons is a freight train of terrorist energy. Moves faster than his father. Obama killed Osama in his home. Not at a training camp or in combat. At home. Hamza wants to hurt Americans right where they live work and play. Arm up. It’s coming to get ugly.

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Martha's avatar

The fact that Obama, a Sunni Muslim, killed him, wasn't because he was doing it in retaliation of 9/11, it was for his own personal purpose. Obama wanted OBL dead. You would think that OBLs sons would realize this and help us destroy their enemies, these infiltrators of our Nation ..but they don't think the way we do. We knew Obama was a fake American but those in DS protected him, as does those he and Biden brought here. If anyone reading this still thinks Biden was running our Nation these last 4 yrs, they live in ignorance.

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William Voelz's avatar

Of course. Osama has two sons. One is a non-warrior type. Hamza has 5 wives and children from each and the wives are from different families, tribes, clans. That makes them all FAMILY. Families fight together. Share goals and vision. Their common enemy is western Great Satan/US. The US/western origins of who did what to whom and when is immaterial at this point. POLITICAL ISLAM wants all Kafirs dead. Today civilizational Jihad where Muzzies insert themselves into every level of western government and use our laws against us has been and is very effective. Muslim Brotherhood is deeply embedded here. When in a minority in a culture they shuck and jive with the best. Taquiyya is commonplace. In parity Muzzies make demands. In a majority the knives come out. Jihad of the sword. Every Mosque is an outpost in a foreign land. All territory in a 28 sq mile around each Mosque is claimed by Islam as sovereign Muslim land. They obtain every home in the area for their followers. Hamza wants Americans dead in huge quantities. Iran's proxy fighters are Hamas, ALQueda, Hezbollah, ISIS-K, etc. ALL in America in deep cover. Well trained and ready. Most of the fighters in a cell use fake names. They don't use standard comms. They trained separately in Afghanistan and are here in America in cells of 5-6 who don't know each other. If one is captured torturing him for names of others and the plans of attack is fruitless. They freelance within an overall plan. Very clever these bastards. GWOT operators know what "follow-on attacks" means. It defeats the emergency protocols American LEO and EMT's use to help people in a crisis. BTW, 911 won't answer and in a lawless and chaotic environment your local police and Deputy Sheriffs will be home keeping their own families safe. The odds of the US B-2 bombing runs altering the threat picture to "critical" here in the Homeland are 100%.......... Arm up. It's gonna get ugly.

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Martha's avatar

Thank you for the info.

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Adolfo's avatar

Flock!

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Martha's avatar

What's “Flock” mean?

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Bryce E. 'Esquire' Rasmussen's avatar

China uses most of their own oil just to keep going. More vulnerable than you think.

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GenEarly's avatar

That’s Why China can not tolerate an interruption in their oil flowing from Iran,

Vulnerable might be good, but then cornered Rats are not “good”.

Consequences downstream are / can be unpredictable, the Enemy gets a vote too.

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Bryce E. 'Esquire' Rasmussen's avatar

Oh they do. And what powers the mighty Chinese military machine? At this point, they have to conserve fuel. They can do some strikes out in the ocean. Any nukes happen, it gets bad for them. Why? Because after Trump’s world domination tour, he took out Ayatollah Khomeini’s right hand terrorist network general, Soleimani, who was crushing many countries with his brutal network. It was publicised for a reason. This is the new warfare, and it’s a specialty of the US. Surgical strikes. And the world got the message. Get out of line, we take your leaders out and there is sweet F you can do to stop it.

The run on Iran’s possible nuclear facilities (I have my doubts the bombs did anything or that there was anything there) happened secretly, with Iran and Israel’s cooperation and carried a similar message.

They got spanked.

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GenEarly's avatar

I think you are a bit overly optomistic on military actions as solutions to problems. Destructive Force always leads to the Need for More Destructive Force. I make no claim then homosapiens is a Rational Lifeform.

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Bryce E. 'Esquire' Rasmussen's avatar

Except that increasingly, said destructive force leans more to a wag the dog scenario. Here’s how it works: apparently a large part if not a core aspect of Iranian politics, world, that sort of thing, is saving face. As it turns out, Trump gave ample warning not only that a strike would happen, but in the hours before the strike. Civilian damage was minimal if not zero. The target may not have been a functioning facility.

The Iranians, probably through back channels, were allowed to make some statements, and then do some strikes, largely to targets that again, little to no civilians were involved. This removes any excuse Israel has to strike back, even though they did, and essentially spanks both. It teaches both countries how to save face without endlessly killing the shit out of each other.

This is 5G warfare. It is meant to change the narrative. No longer does either country have to react to the deaths of their citizens, while expending weapons and looking good like they done some shit.

It is not just surgical strikes. It is the narrative, the story, and a little wag the dog on the world stage. Will it take time to teach two murderous asshole countries there’s another way? Oh hell yeah, but even the lowest IQ moron will eventually get it.

And Trump stays in control, brings peace and reduces casualties. Unfortunately yes, there will still be casualties, but in war, less casualties is the golden goal.

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Martha's avatar

And, who, allowed our Borders to be opened to these dangerous terrorist groups and gangs? Who depleted our arsenals, infiltrated our troops with Communism, Socialists and islamists who do not obey the Oath to our Constitution. It was Clinton who began closing our Military Bases, esp on the Border, where Obama was able to commandere these Border Bases to hide his infiltration of these dangerous fighters from Syria. His Syrian Refugee Resettlement Program was for the Islamic terrorist who fought for him in Syria until Putins troops went in. Our tax dollars were diverted to fund these terrorists and their many wives. At that time it was reported that each side of these fighters were given $3950 a month (2012) for each wife and the children she bore.

We now have the population here that they needed to push their agenda and are now demanding that their Sharia Law be allowed. Once they succeed, God forbid, this law will be forced on us. You are forced to convert or be beheaded. If you convert you are enslaved to them. This isn't an opinion. It's exactly how the caliphates were formed all over the Mideast, Africa and it's happening right now in the EU.

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William Voelz's avatar

Who’s responsible is a moot point. That’s interesting but old news and history. Today we have a massive threat picture here in the Homeland. The Blood provided for all of mankind has been shed.

At Calvary’s Cross 2 k years ago. ….

Today the Muzzie’s want to shed YOUR blood and mine to send them to their heaven.

Arm up. Train. Let’s make sure they can’t martyr themselves and kill us at the same time.

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Martha's avatar

Exactly, except a lot of people are still being convinced everything is Trump's fault, or hes a criminal because the media and their “experts” say so …

It's amazing how ignorant people are.

This is why I expound on the issues.

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GenEarly's avatar

Ah, the Clintoon’s Era of Criminality, Terrorism, and Subversion. 1992 -2000

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J Jordan's avatar

Lindsay, Cruz and the rest of the "we must attack Iran" tribe are crazy. They either are totally ignorant or uncaring about the possible repercussions on US getting involved in Israel's war with Iran. Iran, Russia and China are allies. Both Russian and China have acted in restraint towards Israel attacking Iran (whilst the neocons ignore the fact that Israel initiated the war). There are no wise people in District of Corruption who can see the likelihood of either China or Russia or both getting involved if the US does. Ted Cruz will never get my vote again after admitting his political priority isn't to his constituents nor to America, but to Israel.

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Greg's avatar

As far as official history through conspiracy theories, Iran has never directly attacked the USA. There is a certain small country in the middle east who has attacked us, multiple times and over decades....

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The Infant Phenomenon's avatar

Also, Persia is one of the few countries in the world that has never been conquered.

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Jens Heycke's avatar

Except for the Greeks under Alexander the Great and Seleucus; the Arab armies of the 7th century under Khalid b. Walid and Sa‘d ibn Abi Waqqas; the Mongols under Genghis Khan and Subutai; the Tatars under Tamerlane; and the Afghan Hotaki dynasty, you're absolutely right.

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The Infant Phenomenon's avatar

Ouch! Right between the eyes! I stand corrected.

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Dieter Honboffer's avatar

I hope that is some satire but I'm not understanding it.

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Martha's avatar

They attacked us by Idong the training of terrorists in their nation to come here and do mass attacks on Americans as well as trying to assassinate Pres. Trump. It was only after they refused to negotiate and said they will go to war, rather than gove up their Nuclear buildup, that Pres. Trump acted. Remember, their leader changed "Death to America" many times prior....

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Greg's avatar

80% of the world chants death to America, I would too after 50 years of getting bombed, color revolutions, western pornography, drug culture and transgender propaganda.... Do we go to war with the world? As for Iran, they don't care about us or what goes on in their neighborhood, they are surrounded by us vases, navy and airforce. We don't need their oil, we have our own. Why are we there? they are entirely correct to react in defense of their nation and culture, that includes asymmetric warfare.

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Randale6@protonmail.com's avatar

Not our hemisphere, not our problem. Send the neocon Trotskyites to Israel where they belong...

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Dave El's avatar

It will be 2 weeks to defeat Iran turn into 2 decades

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Richard's avatar

In 1962, the argument against invading Cuba was won when a map of Cuba was superimposed on a map of the US. It stretched from Miami to Chicago. As your maps show, Iran is much bigger.

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John Kociuba's avatar

That's not what happened! Communist drug addict JFK and his brother Bobby betrayed United States changing landing zone at the last minute! Bay of Pigs was NOT the original landing zone because it was Fidel Castro's old fishing grounds and he knew those areas like the back of his hands. Castro's military was waiting. A total ambush.

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Richard's avatar

That comment refers to The Bay of Pigs in 1961. My comment refers to the Cuban Missile Crisis in 1962.

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John Kociuba's avatar

Richard,

History repeats and never forgets. Re: Cuba v Iran. We didn't finish job in Cuba and look at results? "When you take Vienna, you take Vienna", ~Hon. M. G. Napoleon Bonaparte. George H.W. Bush failed this lesson when he invaded Iraq.

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John Kociuba's avatar

I was generalizing because they made those same statements in 61 which falsely covered up treason by Kennedy administration.

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Ghg's avatar

Great visuals Matt thanks

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David Poe's avatar

"Even if the skies were shorter than my knees, I would not kneel." ~ Cyrus the Great

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Neoliberal Feudalism's avatar

Hi Matt, I don't think you are looking at this correctly from the elite/Zionist perspective. Their goal here is likely not to *conquer* Iran, but to *destroy it to such an extent that it no longer poses a threat to the Greater Israel project*, much like Iraq, Syria, and Libya were destroyed. In other words, they do not want the threat of ballistic or nuclear missiles hanging over their head when they dramatically expand Israel territory and investment. Perhaps there will be boots on the ground, but to effectuate their objective here of destruction (regardless of whatever language they try to sell it to the retarded public), it seems like only the special forces + CIA (the latter used to rile up Iran's minority communities) may be enough for their purposes here. Remember, what our elites' actual objectives are are never the same as what they claim them to be publicly - for example, Afghanistan was a *massive success* for them, because the goal there was not military victory but to use Afghanistan to rape the American taxpayer and funnel it through Afghanistan back into the hands of the transnational security elite, as Julian Assange so eloquently stated here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IGU_7alJ80

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Matt Bracken's avatar

Oh, I do agree with you. They'd like to see Iran wrecked, and embroiled in civil war forever, like Syria and Libya.

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The Infant Phenomenon's avatar

This is eye-opening (18 mins)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vxNVLC8EE8

The money power that rules the world lost their gamble to burglarize and rob Russia via the Ukraine, but if they do as suggested in the video, they will have the Caspian Sea, so they can keep trying to burglarize and rob Russia. Just guessing, but watch the video.

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glenn's avatar

Aside from the logistical issues of power projection, Iran has a large population. Any ground assault would face wave after wave of forced civilian cannon fodder. Not to mention, save for mossad, the US seems to lack any real intelligence in Irans defense, perhaps pun intended. It’s no secret the mullahs are insane, and will do anything to maintain power, including sacrificing their population. Not a good situation any way you look.

BTW, for those continuing to say Iran has never attacked us are technically accurate. Just like we have “technically” not attacked Russia. Iran knows as much as we do how to run proxy wars.

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Steve's avatar

Most of Iran hates the Mullahs. They are protesting them now.

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glenn's avatar

I have a feeling the mullahs are toast. Will be interesting in real opposition emerges, like clear splits in the military or other aspects of the regime.

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The Watchman's avatar

Good analysis, Matt. Linking it today @https://nothingnewunderthesun2016.com/

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Grape Soda's avatar

Sobering.

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Totally Unimportant's avatar

As regards geography, Iran and China recently completed a test run of a frieght train from China to a dry dock outside Tehran.

Iran has survived sanctions. They have in turn sanctioned Red Sea trade. Now, they will soon be able to ship oil out, and finished goods in, between Russia and China.

https://www.eurasiantimes.com/first-freight-train-from-china-wheels-into-iran/

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173dVietVet's avatar

Matt - - if the only objective that the US wants taken out is the huge underground uranium processing plant in Fordo, why not use one of "The Rods Of God" as a certain way to erase the facility....?

Perhaps this is what The Trumpeter is planning.......

Requires no commitment of troops, no risk of shoot down. Takes out only that one target without destroying anything far outside its airealized debris and ground shock radius. Down side: It openly tells the world we have weaponized space even though we did not put nukes into orbit, which would be a clear violation of the Outer Space Treaty (The US ratified and put it into effect as a part of US law in October 1967. See: https://2009-2017.state.gov/t/isn/5181.htm ).

My contention is that The Rods Of God are a point of contact weapon, similar to the MOAB, and not a weapon of mass destruction which the Outer Space Treaty prohibits.

BTW, nothing I say here has been due to my exposure to highly classified info. I never had any such clearances, or even had known someone who possessed such clearances. Open source (

https://taskandpurpose.com/news/kinetic-bombardment-kep-weaponry/), logic, and supposition form the basis of my comments.

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An Ol' LSO's avatar

Really? You believe that the U.S. wouldn't violate a treaty like the Outer Space Treaty? The U.S. easily exits any treaty, any agreement, any negotiated settlement whenever it determines the U.S. doesn't like it or need it anymore. The government and clowns in Washington think they are above everything. They and only they are the true light and way! An ugly future lurks for America.

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John Schrauth's avatar

The Russian hypersonics can supposedly create an impact effect similar to a small nuke, just without radiation contamination. How do we consider a similar effect generating the same amount of destruction as anything but a weapon of mass destruction?

Rods from God need not be deployed from space. My understanding is you launch them from a plane diving from about 80-100,000 ft. I don't know if they are boosted or just dropped. That said, Israel has the F-15 which can make 80,000 feet and they certainly have the ability to obtain or make Titanium rods. Therefore I have to question whether the Rods concept would get the job done. They would have been dropping them right and left at the beginning.

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173dVietVet's avatar

John - - I read a few years ago that the RODS are telephone pole sized titanium with some type rocket motor. Very accurate and calculated to hit with force of a nuke, but will penetrate as ground shock wave moves both downward and out.

Rumor was that one was used number of years ago to destroy Nork deep underground nuke facility. That event was described a being destroyed due to a localized earthquake. Blip of news never focused upon and then poof….. gone…..

Don’t disagree with your proposition as to Israelis. We will shortly find out how Fordow is to be taken out.

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UM Ross's avatar

Titanium is not what you want for this. Its density is too low. Think about this in terms of ballistic coefficient, where mass and density play an important role. There's a reason we make bullets of of the densest readily available materials.

What you really want here is tungsten or depleted uranium, both of which have a density approximately four times that of titanium, but using DU would probably upset some folks. Heck, even plain old steel, with a density approximately twice that of titanium would be better.

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173dVietVet's avatar

Nice to learn something every day. If our “thinkers” are smart enough to create a Rods Of God device and emplace it a few hundred miles up, my guess is that they knew to use tungsten or steel. Thanks for your educating an old guy !

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UM Ross's avatar

I really doubt we have anything like this in orbit. It would require some really heavy-lift launch capabilities -- think Saturn V, SLS, or Starship. Launches like that can't be done on the sly.

Still dropping a precision-guided tungsten rod weighing, say 30,000 lbs from 50,000' would probably be a darn good penetrator. It wouldn't have energy approaching that of a nuclear weapon that you could potentially get by dropping it from orbit, but might still do the job.

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173dVietVet's avatar

See this article about non-Soace based Bunker buster bombs: https://bmanalysis.substack.com/p/israel-vs-iran-gbu-57ab-mop-bunker?publication_id=1105422&utm_campaign=email-post-title&r=2rqnz&utm_medium=email

It is very detailed and discusses how the Iranians could build to defeat such monster bombs.

Agree with your analysis that huge titanium or steel telephone poles would take very large lifting rockets to put into orbit. However, if halved or otherwise reduced in size, they might fit in the old Space Shuttle bay and still be emplaced in an existing satellite. Numerous trips might be required to fully load and make operationally viable such a weaponized satellite. But at that time, those Rods might have been seen to be sufficient to take out known bunkers, considering the techniques, materials, and skills available…..

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